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[CHAT] Forgiveness

FORGIVENESS! Heart

 

If a person hurt us there are two ways to go about it; either ignore it and move on or to take revenge and be even. It's not always easy to take the high road, to just forgive and let go when someone's done you wrong. It maybe intentional or unintentional but it already did some damage. I know that it takes a lot of courage to forgive someone and forgiving is one step forward into breathing more easier! But what good does hurting another person do to you? It doesn't make you any better. But standing by and ignoring your hurt feelings isn't good either. So here we are stick in a pickle! 

But how do we forgive the people that hurt us? Would you choose to take the high road? How long does it take to forgive someone that hurt us? Do we choose who we forgive? Can you still go back to the way it was? Are we capable of giving them a second chance? 

 

Come and join us on the 7th of August at 7:30 pm AEST to discuss ways we can forgive and forget and share your thoughts about forgiveness! If you have any questions, feel free to comment!  

SkyIsTheLimit
SkyIsTheLimitPosted 23-07-2017 12:20 AM

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Arrow
ArrowPosted 28-08-2017 08:41 PM

Forgiveness is hard.  Trying to forgive someone who hurt me very badly but didnt know what she was doing due to mental illness.  The anger is so strong.  Not an easy path to take to forgive her when she hasnt yet acknowledged her mental illness and is unable to accept responsibility due to the illness.

 
 
Ben-RO
Ben-ROPosted 28-08-2017 08:43 PM

Ugh that is very hard @Arrow it's tough when a person doesn't understand the impact they have had because of the illness 😞 

 
Ben-RO
Ben-ROPosted 07-08-2017 05:41 PM
 
 
Georgiewelky
GeorgiewelkyPosted 08-08-2017 10:00 AM
what time will it be?
 
 
 
RevzZ
RevzZPosted 08-08-2017 06:37 PM
Hey @Georgiewelky. If you're looking for the discussion, it was on Monday at 7:30 PM. You're welcome to join our next week one at exactly the same time!
 
 
FootyFan26
FootyFan26Posted 07-08-2017 07:31 PM

Welcome!, Tonight we'll be talking about forgiveness!

 

Forgiveness is not always easy. It's often very hard. Hopefully this GR can help generate a few ideas and help us all onto the right track 🙂 

 

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mspaceK
mspaceKPosted 07-08-2017 07:53 PM

Hey. I'm just quickly popping in cause I gotta go to my game but I like this topic. It's a really tricky one and it's something I've had to learn to deal with. I've had to learn to forgive a parent who has done some unforgivable things that still takes its toll on me. Forgiveness for me is a path of self-realisation. That I am more worth more than the 'bully' or the person that has done something unforgivable. It's accepting what I cannot control of others but knowing that I have complete control over what I choose to do with it. To me forgiveness is sort of like acceptance but not submission. I won't tolerate someone intentionally causing harm but forgiveness I feel is better than anger and hate..which i dealt with for a long time. I agree that it also means to 'let go' - to let go of the hate and know that there is still light. 

 
 
 
 
StarLord
StarLordPosted 07-08-2017 07:56 PM
@mspaceK totally agree with you on forgiveness being acceptance rather than submission. It's part of finding peace with what's happened. I'm not a forgive and forget kind of person - you gotta take everything you learn in life with you I reckon.
 
 
 
 
 
FootyFan26
FootyFan26Posted 07-08-2017 08:04 PM
1. What does forgiveness mean to you? (for example, does it mean completely getting over it or keeping it in mind, but not letting it affect you anymore)
I feel like forgiveness is acknowledging that someone has been wronged but also realising that it is in the past and that it's best to move on instead of holding what the other person did to them.
 
 
2.In what situations might forgiveness be needed?
Forgiveness is likely to be needed in situations where someone has been negatively affected by something.  Some examples of situations are arguments, accidents where someone/something might have been hurt/damaged, a misunderstanding or a simple mistake.
 
 
 
 
 
basketofmonkeys
basketofmonkeysPosted 07-08-2017 07:59 PM
I love that perspective @mspaceK!!
 
 
 
 
 
FootyFan26
FootyFan26Posted 07-08-2017 08:23 PM

3. What are some of the benefits of forgiveness? (consider the benefits that are available for both yourself and the other person/people)

 

  • Nothing is being held on the other person
  • They don't have that weight on their shoulders
  • You can accept that you've been wronged...
  • and learn from it!
  • It's a good way to prevent more confrontation
  • You can build a better relationship with the other person
 
 
 
 
 
honky
honkyPosted 07-08-2017 08:27 PM
Forgiveness can be hard, however when accomplished, we generally forget that it can also be very beneficial for our health (emotionally, mentally and physically)
 
 
 
 
 
LadyMacbeth00
LadyMacbeth00Posted 07-08-2017 08:37 PM
Ok everyone, here's the next question 🙂
4. What are some of the negatives involved in refusing to forgive somebody? (for both yourself and the other person)
 
 
 
 
 
FootyFan26
FootyFan26Posted 07-08-2017 08:51 PM

4. What are some of the negatives involved in refusing to forgive somebody?

 

  • Could ruin the relationship
  • Make them feel more guilty than they are
  • Could make you feel guilty for making them feel guilty if later on you want to forgive them but can't contact them
 
 
 
 
 
basketofmonkeys
basketofmonkeysPosted 07-08-2017 08:40 PM
What are some of the negatives involved in refusing to forgive somebody? (for both yourself and the other person)

For you:
- you continue harbouring negative feelings which may affect your overall mental health
- you spend unnecessary time in an overly negative mindset
- it may ruin your relationship/friendship with that person
- it may ruin your relationship/friendship with other people connected to that person

For them
- they may have a ruined relationship/friendship with you
- they harbour guilt about the event
- you both have broken communication over the issue
 
 
 
 
 
LadyMacbeth00
LadyMacbeth00Posted 07-08-2017 09:01 PM
I've spent a long time trying to forgive the person who repeatedly told me to kill myself. For a long time I kept trying to forgive her and I even thought I did. I think to this day I still haven't fully forgiven her because a part of me can't let go of something as big as that. While I continue to try to forgive her, some of the negatives for me are that it remains on the back of my head to bite me every time things get tough. I'm stuck in mud so to speak.
 
 
 
 
 
basketofmonkeys
basketofmonkeysPosted 07-08-2017 09:08 PM
@LadyMacbeth00, I think that's where the line of forgiveness get a little bit blurry. There's been some instances where someone has made me feel unsafe or scared, and I feel like forgiving them is a whole different ball game because it's a much less trivial matter. However, the way that I like to look at things is that the kind of forgiveness that you give people like that (who do things so utterly horrible) is not letting them off the hook, it's refusing to harbour the negative energy that ultimately affects YOU. I doesn't mean you still have to be friends, or that you even have to talk, it's more about doing what's going to be good for you than making things easy for them
 
 
 
 
 
LadyMacbeth00
LadyMacbeth00Posted 07-08-2017 09:12 PM
Thanks @RevzZ and @basketofmonkeys. I think ultimately forgiveness is one of those things that really takes a lot of strength and will power and those are two things I really don't have much of right now... and yes I agree with both of you.
 
 
 
 
 
j95
j95Posted 07-08-2017 09:10 PM
@basketofmoneys kind of like not saying "yeah its all good" but more like
"that happened to me and it wasn't good but i have grown from it"
 
 
 
 
 
j95
j95Posted 07-08-2017 09:18 PM
yeah i get what you mean @Ben-RO because it gets to a point where carrying it around and letting it affect you doesn't do anything, it doesn't help and it can hold you back.
just speaking from my experience...
 
 
 
 
 
basketofmonkeys
basketofmonkeysPosted 07-08-2017 09:10 PM
When somebody does something that I think of as unforgiveable, I think the process is more about letting go. Not about being friends with them, not even letting them know that you're over it, just working on getting yourself to the point where it doesn't impact you anymore is the ultimate goal for me.
 
 
 
 
 
RevzZ
RevzZPosted 07-08-2017 09:08 PM
I know that feeling @LadyMacbeth00 a bit too well. I'm a little bit of an overanalyser so I think of so many reasons why something happens and there's always the negatives thoughts too. It's tough having it as a constant reminder, isn't it?
 
 
 
 
 
j95
j95Posted 07-08-2017 09:03 PM
I guess this is a hard topic for me because i have heard people say how everyone deserves a second chance and forgiveness is the best way forward but shit, i don't know about that, theres certain people who don't deserve a second chance
 
 
 
 
 
Ben-RO
Ben-ROPosted 07-08-2017 09:15 PM

@j95 wrote:
I guess this is a hard topic for me because i have heard people say how everyone deserves a second chance and forgiveness is the best way forward but shit, i don't know about that, theres certain people who don't deserve a second chance

I think that's right and to @j95 and @LadyMacbeth00 and when it's at that point as @basketofmonkeys said forgiveness isn't so much about second chances as it is about not carrying that hurt that you have suffered from the person around with you.  Because doing so means that what they did becomes worse and worse for you over time :(. So maybe it's not so much forgiveness in that circumstance but letting go? Hmmm 

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