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[CHAT] Work it

Whether:

- you are going for your first ever after school job at 14 & 9 months, or

- you've left school and looking for an apprenticeship/traineeship or

- you are trying to work to support your study at uni or tafe or

- you've finished your study and you want your first full time job or

- you haven't worked for a long time but it's time to get a job...

- you are working hard for the money...

Looking for a job and/or working can be a pretty nerve wrecking experience, especially trying to keep everything running smoothly!

 

You might be wondering how you can find the right kind of job that suits you; how to make it through the dreaded interview; how to make sure you are not taken advantage of; how to manage your pay & make it last the fortnight;  and before any of that - resumes these days have become an art form!

 

Or what about this age old conundrum:

experience

cycle

 

Here's a story from a forum member, Chonty

 

"The first job I ever had was working in a fast food joint after school and on weekends. I remember wanting to quit in the first week because it was all too new and I didn’t like the manager. I also remember how exciting it was to get my first pay, and I’m pretty sure I spent it immediately on new clothes and forgot all about wanting to leave. That’s pretty much how I spent every pay for two years straight, without a thought about saving for future things.

 

It wasn’t until schoolies came around that I realised I didn’t have enough saved to do all the things that had been planned! Luckily in the end my family were all able to chip in in and it all worked out, but they let me sweat it for a while. Being in a position where I realised I hadn’t managed my money as well as I should have wasn’t the best.""

 
Join us Monday 27th APril at 8pm AEST to pick up some tips on looking for work, landing that job, getting used to a new work environment, being money smart and generally handling all things employment like a boss.
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 24-04-2015 11:04 AM

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j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 10:02 PM
Will see how I go , thanks!!
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 10:04 PM

@j95 Maybe look into joining a union, from my experience they are well worth it 🙂 Maybe even post a separate thread about this? It's a pretty important thing that should be adressed and I'm interested to see how your situation unfolds. Hope you can sort it out soon and you get what is fair 🙂

 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 10:01 PM
Not in a union @FItzChivalry only new to the industry, first year apprentice
 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:59 PM
Do you think it's worth going to my apprenticeship provider? They might be able to come check on me one day and suss the problem out.
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 10:03 PM

that might be an idea @j95 Have you checked out the fair work site? I reckon you should be able to find some helpful stuff here

 

http://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/how-we-help-you/help-resolving-workplace-issues

 

Also, if you're wondering about unions, check this out

 

http://www.saunions.org.au/youth/trade_union.html

 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 10:01 PM

@j95 I think that's a great idea, either them or fairwork australia or someone similar. You can even contact places like that anonymously if you're worried about repercussions from your boss (which can happen sometimes 😞 )

 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 10:02 PM

This was a really great topic and everyone was able to bring their own expertise and experience to the forum, which is awesome! So much constructive comments went into this to create quite a solid wealth of information 🙂 Here are the key points that we covered tonight.

 

  1. What do you think employers look for in their ideal candidates for a role?

SO MANY AWESOME SUGGESTIONS! social skills, confidence, leadership skills and initiative, strong skill set, experience is the best proof of your talents. Two way street, you need to be a good fit for the org and vice versa. Bottom line, be your genuine self!

 

  1. What are some of your tips for making the best resume when applying for jobs?

Short, concise, well-written and full of relevant information. Tailor your resumes to the position and always have your relevant references on hand! Create a hierarchy of important information, and lay it our clearly!

 

  1. what are some of the websites or ways you apply for jobs?

Gumtree, seek, jobsearch, job agencies and volunteering are all great ways to find job openings. Also word of mouth, and casually dropping your resume in. Don’t forget to be ol school and check the paper too 😉

 

  1. What kind of activities do you think people could participate in to help them get their first job?

Volunteering, work experience and sports and community work are all a great step into the workforce and just simply building your skillset in general. Having a direction is also a great way to hone in your skills on what you value.

 

  1. How would you prepare for a job interview?

Prepare sample questions, research the company, don’t just memorize answers but know the information so you can answer the questions comfortably. Put a bit of effort into your presentation so you feel and look confident! Also practising relaxation methods to be cool, calm, and collected.

  1. what kind of jobs do you think are best to do while studying?

If you can, try and get a job related to your studies, even if it’s basic. Hospitality offers great, flexible hours for students and helps build your people skills and work ethic. Pretty much any casual job is great!

7.What tips would you suggest to people applying for jobs after being unemployed for a long period of time?

Show the employer that you have been keeping busy, building your skill set and working hard e.g. volunteering. Focus on what you have been doing, not on the time you’ve spent doing “nothing”. Use of the cover letter is vital here!

  1. If you were employed and unhappy with your working conditions, how would you try to resolve the issue?

Follow the right avenues, e.g. manager, HR, CEO, union etc. Try and submit your complaints via email so you have a record of them if they’re being ignored!

Thank you again to everybody for their contributions and making this such an enjoyable and valuable discussion 🙂


Good night all!

 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:54 PM
Nobody above him @benjamin_ he's the owner and manager
 
 
copse
copsePosted 27-04-2015 09:59 PM
@fitzchilvalry @benjamin_ thanks for tonight!:) look forward to next time
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 09:59 PM

@j95 that sucks to hear. I think @FItzChivalry had a good point in telling him that you will escalate it if he doesn't do anything to resolve it. It def sounds like something you should be entitled to so I think it's fair. 

 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 09:58 PM

@j95 Well that certainly puts you in a tight spot 😞 and you're not a part of a union? those guys usually fight tooth and nail for their workers to make sure everything is fair

 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:52 PM
Oh I posted that when @benjamin_ was posting the question, funny that.
 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:50 PM
I have a question, I'm hoping someone else can answer. What do you do if you feel you are not being treated fairly at work, have spoken up but nothing has changed? My boss consistently doesn't give me breaks, because we eats on the job so if he's not taking a break, why should everybody else (that's his thinking) but I can't work and eat, He says no I'm not allowed and I find it too hard lol. I need an actual break. I have already said something but no changes 😕

Even worse that its hands on labour... tiring as!!
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 09:54 PM

@j95 It's hard to say without knowing the structure of your work, but have you tried going over the top? Mentioning it to his boss? Or are you part of a union or anything? Maybe try bringing it up one more time, but mention that if it isn't resolved you will have to escalate it. You have rights and you should feel comfortable in your workplace!

 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 09:53 PM

@j95 That def sounds unfair, you should be entitled to getting breaks on the job. Is there anyone else that you can go to other than your boss to raise the issue? If you're serious about it, is there anyone above him that you could raise it with ?

 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:42 PM
@benjamin I think your answer is spot on 🙂 putting emphasis on what you have done rather than what you haven't done (employment wise)
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 09:43 PM

@j95 That's true! It can sometimes be pretty difficult to do but it's much more effective 🙂

 
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 09:46 PM

Gonna keep it moving guys, time for next question!

 

  1. If you were employed and unhappy with your working conditions, how would you try to resolve the issue?

The first thing I would do is try to talk to my manager. If that wasn't a good option, for example, if my manager was part of the issue and I couldn't solve it by talking to them directly, I might try speaking to someone else in a management position such as HR or a supervisor. 

 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 09:49 PM

If you were employed and unhappy with your working conditions, how would you try to resolve the issue?

I agree with you @benjamin_ I've heard a lot of stories of people complaining, and they feel like they can't go to their manager or their manager won't help, but they forget that there are other avenues, like HR, who pretty much exist for this sort of stuff! There are people in your company that want to help you, and if it's such a struggle to find them then maybe they're not the best company to work for...

 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 09:51 PM

Another thing to note is (if possible) try and submit all your complaints via email, so you have a record of them if they go unattended or you feel like you're being ignored or treating poorly!

 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:33 PM
@benjamin_ yes apprenticeships and traineeships are not for everyone or every industry
 
j95
j95Posted 27-04-2015 09:30 PM
@benjamin_ what are you studying (sorry if you have already said so)

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