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[CHAT] Work it

Whether:

- you are going for your first ever after school job at 14 & 9 months, or

- you've left school and looking for an apprenticeship/traineeship or

- you are trying to work to support your study at uni or tafe or

- you've finished your study and you want your first full time job or

- you haven't worked for a long time but it's time to get a job...

- you are working hard for the money...

Looking for a job and/or working can be a pretty nerve wrecking experience, especially trying to keep everything running smoothly!

 

You might be wondering how you can find the right kind of job that suits you; how to make it through the dreaded interview; how to make sure you are not taken advantage of; how to manage your pay & make it last the fortnight;  and before any of that - resumes these days have become an art form!

 

Or what about this age old conundrum:

experience

cycle

 

Here's a story from a forum member, Chonty

 

"The first job I ever had was working in a fast food joint after school and on weekends. I remember wanting to quit in the first week because it was all too new and I didn’t like the manager. I also remember how exciting it was to get my first pay, and I’m pretty sure I spent it immediately on new clothes and forgot all about wanting to leave. That’s pretty much how I spent every pay for two years straight, without a thought about saving for future things.

 

It wasn’t until schoolies came around that I realised I didn’t have enough saved to do all the things that had been planned! Luckily in the end my family were all able to chip in in and it all worked out, but they let me sweat it for a while. Being in a position where I realised I hadn’t managed my money as well as I should have wasn’t the best.""

 
Join us Monday 27th APril at 8pm AEST to pick up some tips on looking for work, landing that job, getting used to a new work environment, being money smart and generally handling all things employment like a boss.
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 24-04-2015 11:04 AM

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benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:23 PM

@copse I gotta admit I never thought about applying for scholarships, but I really should have! I have a few friends who benefited so much from them, and I can only imagine how sweet it would be on a resume. 

 
 
 
 
 
Mermaidgirl6
Mermaidgirl6Posted 27-04-2015 08:28 PM

@benjamin_  Not to mention scholarships (when you do get them) are pretty awesome! For me and others I know who've been successful, they always mean money towards tuition, books, a 'free' computer. Yay!!! Def worth applying for those if you qualify.

 
 
 
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:29 PM

@Mermaidgirl6 congrats on getting one, I really wish I applied for one earlier! 

 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 08:21 PM

@copse That's some solid advice 🙂

 
 
 
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:16 PM

@Mermaidgirl6  Communication skills is huge, I agree! I def think that they would consider the way you communicate in the interview and use that to help them understand how you might be in a team!

 

@Dreamer 95 Ambition and commitment are def two things I would want in an employee! I think they both paint the picture of a hard working, reliable employee

 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:01 PM

I'm going to go ahead and answer the first one!

 

  1. What do you think employers look for in their ideal candidates for a role?

I think the key things employers look for is people who are hard working, have great social skills, ability to be organized and work well in a team, as well as an technical skills appropriate to the role. I guess it always varies, but those are the things I think are most important.

 
 
 
KitKat
KitKatPosted 27-04-2015 08:04 PM

1. What do you think employers look for in their ideal candidates for a role?

In a lot of cases, experience! I can't even handle how true that comic is in your first post @benjamin_ , haha. I think employers definitely like to see that you have some kind of proven skill-set, whether or not it's directly related to your role or some kind of transferable skill from something else you''ve done.

 

I also think being friendly and approachable is a big one. I definitely think it helps with the interview process!

 
 
 
 
delicatedreamer
delicatedreamerPosted 27-04-2015 08:08 PM

Hi everyone! Really looking forward to this chat 🙂

What do you think employers look for in their ideal candidates for a role?

I definitely agree with experience, but I also think they look for someone who is a good fit with the organisations values and ways of working - I think that is why I got my job.

 
 
 
 
 
Bee
BeePosted 27-04-2015 08:09 PM
that's true @delicatedreamer my employer actually said mine was the best answer he'd heard all day with the "why should I hire you" question in the interview. was funny!
 
 
 
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:09 PM

Hey @delicatedreamer ðŸ™‚ glad you could join us!

 

That is so true about being a good fit. Especially when you're working closely with a team, being able to work well with everyone is pretty much crucial to doing well on the job so i'm sure that employers would care about it.

 
 
 
 
 
florenceforever
florenceforeverPosted 27-04-2015 08:08 PM

I think that's a great one @delicatedreamer 

 

I got a new job a couple of weeks ago and I think I got it for a similar reason!

 
 
 
 
benjamin_
benjamin_Posted 27-04-2015 08:07 PM

Welcome @KitKat 

 

Experience is a big deal for sure. I imagine if you don't know someone well, experience is one of the only concrete things you can really go by! That being said, it doesn't necessarily mean that people with MORE experience will always be picked so it depends how you present yourself too !

 
 
 
 
 
KitKat
KitKatPosted 27-04-2015 08:11 PM

@benjamin_ Yeah, so true! At the end of the day it's the way you package yourself up, skill sets, personality and all, and sell yourself to your potential employer.

 

@delicatedreamer That's so true actually! My last interview some of my questions actually asked me how I displayed specific company values in my every day life and stuff.

 
 
 
 
 
copse
copsePosted 27-04-2015 08:12 PM
Hey everyone! Sorry I'm a bit late!
I've worked the same part time job for 5 years, I think my employer easy just looking for someone young for cheap labour to be honest!
 
 
 
 
 
KitKat
KitKatPosted 27-04-2015 08:15 PM

@copse Woah, that's a long time! I definitely reckon it's more then that if you've been around for that long, you must have some mad job skillz going on 😛

 

I have to admit though, when I worked at McDonalds it was totally like that. Whenever the HSC finished you would start losing shifts because all the younger (aka cheaper) kids with lots of free times would become available. 

 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 08:17 PM

@KitKat Definitely felt that pain... :'( I never understand it though because it's always the people that have worked there for a few years that have the experience that lose the shifts for the new, cheaper, younger people that have no experience -.-" 

 
 
 
 
 
KitKat
KitKatPosted 27-04-2015 08:23 PM

@FItzChivalry Isn't it the worst? Haha. The most annoying thing for me was that some of the younger teens didn't take it seriously at all - kind of sounds like the problem @j95 was having at Coles! Yeah, Maccas isn't the place you want to work at forever and it can be a bit daggy, but it's your job and you're getting paid to be there and do it correctly.

 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 08:25 PM

@KitKat Exactly! And the business is going to be much more productive if it is full of experienced people who have been there for years and value their job!

 
 
 
 
 
Troy
TroyPosted 27-04-2015 08:29 PM

The part that always confused me is How long to make a resume.

 

A family friend who has been an executive for a bunch of companies such as Shell, Bluescope Steel and Santos said that it doesn't matter if a resume is long but it has to be clearly marked, so the employer can easily see the different sections etc.

 

Howevever, I think that more casual jobs such as for teenagers/Young adults, many of the managers are very young themself so may want a short concise resume, as staff turnover can be pretty high for younger ages.

 
 
 
 
 
Bee
BeePosted 27-04-2015 08:33 PM
@Troy during high school m careers adviser said 1-2 pages. I also think @FItzChivalry is right in saying employers often don't have heaps of time, so something conscience is good/better
 
 
 
 
 
copse
copsePosted 27-04-2015 08:31 PM
@Troy rule of thumb in my experience is usually max two pages... the more experienced you become, the more of the unrelated (like primary school captain) you remove 🙂
 
 
 
 
 
copse
copsePosted 27-04-2015 08:17 PM
@KitKat tell me about it, I'm lucky enough to have a good boss who keeps us old people on!;)
I also think that it's important to start working early on in your life, it gives you skills that you can then bring to later (hopefully better paid) jobs!
 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 08:16 PM

Welcome to everyone that just joined the party 🙂 Some awesome advice flying around at the moment! Everyone seems to have something of value to add (I think you'd all do very well in an interview hehe)

 
 
 
 
 
Troy
TroyPosted 27-04-2015 08:13 PM

haha thanks, hey guys 🙂    (im struggling to refresh my page regularly enough >< ppl so quick! )

 
 
 
 
 
FItzChivalry
FItzChivalryPosted 27-04-2015 08:08 PM

@benjamin_ That's very true, you might have all the skills in the world and be the best person for the job, but you only really have one chance to prove that to the employer, which is a hard thing to do but if they see you have a wealth of experience behind you then they're much more likely to believe in you

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