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I would just like to preface this with I am okay!! I am just writing this post to get it out of my head. When will the overthinking, overanalysing and somewhat, I do not want to say paranoid as these things do actually happen. I am not imagining it. But what I take from the situation and the assuming is the problem. Stop?
I have overthought this so much I have completely forgotten the context. I am just telling you how i remember it. It was a Uni day and I was walking over to some Girls I know very well, and they know me. I think we all had to go over to one area as we were all going to the same place. The whole to Uni classes were together. Our lecture rooms are right next to each other so we see each class everyday anyway. I am sure I was with a few of my friend group aswell. Anyway, As I am approaching, I notice one girl turn her head to the girl next to her and make a face and roll her eyes/flutter her eyes. Like you would if you were annoyed or dreading something. Not thrilled anyway. When I approach and stop pretty much. I make eye contact with her when she turns back around and she smiles at me. A quick big grin. So it was definitely put on.
In my head my exact thoughts were "I saw that, That was definitely because/about me" I felt like she saw me coming and was dreading my incoming presence. I feel she thought I might of seen her roll her eyes so smiled at me to disregard that. From what I remember she then started talking to my friend next to me. And then all of us?? I was quickly distracted as everything else was just fine. I didn't fault the interaction after that.
To give you a better insight. This is very embarrassing and silly. I know that, Its not the action itself but what the action may represent. The girl above unfollowed me randomly on instagram mid last year and ever since I have questioned her motives around me.I guess I took the unfollowing as a diss, like i'm not wanted in her life, I feel like she dislikes me. She happily accepted my facebook friend request though afterwards and had no issues interacting with me on social media until the unfollow. Anyway, this all was the trigger. So ever since I have been on high alert around her. If i hear laughing when i'm near, I think she is laughing at me. If she comments on something that I am mentioned in when we or others are having a convo. I think its a personal attack. Her and another Girl commented on a top I was wearing agreeing that they both liked it, but I could not and questioned the compliment. So thats a brief insight in to why I am the way I am. I am very aware its silly, in fact i am so aware of how I act around her. That i usually remove myself completely from her presence, not because of what i am worried she will do. But, because i know that i will overanalyse her every move and face when i'm around and overthink it. So i'm very aware I create my own problems.
Back to the above, When I remove myself from the overanalysing side of my brain and calm down. I think, She made the face before I had even gotten to her as I remember watching her do it from a little distance, what if her friend said something and she was just making a face at that? I don't even think her friend noticed she made a face. So its not like she was looking for a reaction either, or her friends to back her up and have a giggle with her. If I was looking at her, surely I would of seen her look at me, right? I don't remember that. Because I feel like if we made eye contact prior then we would of just smiled at each other/looked at each other and she would of had no time to roll her eyes. She simply could of smiled at me because I made eye contact with her in general. Thats what people do, right? Like when you see someone you know on the street and make eye contact, you smile? And obviously I was looking, hence why I noticed the above anyway. So maybe it was simply because I was looking at her. I also wonder how she knew I was coming over/going to stop in front of her anyway. Maybe we were all going to the same place and I had to stand over there near her. but if not, then she probably had no idea I was even stopping near her. Also, We have been in classes before, partners in classes before and have been in each others presence before. With ZERO issues, nothing like this situation anyway. I guess it doesn't really make make sense for this to be an issue this one Friday afternoon since it hasn't been before. Once last thing, No one else seems to notice this stuff. If they do, they don't assume its about them. And why me? Why out of the 50 students is it just me? always me? I guess this is why I question if what I am assuming is correct? And its why I overthink. I am torn between I don't want to pretend like it didn't happen and think this is all rainbows and butterflies. But at the same time I don't want to worry about something that didn't happen the way I thought it did.
To finish, one thing I find super interesting is the fact that when I tell my sister and my friends about all of this. They all tell me they have never ever heard this girl say a bad thing about me. My sister also knows her and has hung with her and her friends at lunchtimes when we were all in school (really small school, everyone knows everyone pretty much) and if she ever saw her around the city she would make general conversation and ask how I was. Her friend group and mine even ended up sitting together for like a year at lunchtimes and that definitely no issue. Again small school so we were all just chilling really. I know you shouldn't care ect, but I am not good at that. And plus, I could have actually nothing to worry about and the fact that none of this really makes sense aswell
I have tried to seek help in talking with others. Seeing a psychologist. But I have this overwhelming feeling that I am always right and no one can convince me otherwise. Not in a cocky way. Everyones always like "Trust your Gut" but what extent? when you overanalyse so much you can probably convince yourself of anything. There was one situation I was sooooo convinced I was right about but later, by pure chance some evidence was shown to me and I was wrong. It was the weirdest feeling. Thats when I really knew that this is a problem. Just a chat, Thankyou for listening
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 10:50 AM

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Sally_RO
Sally_ROPosted 24-04-2023 03:16 PM

Hi @Cinnamon_Moose welcome to the online community, it's really great to have you here! Thank you for sharing what is going on for you at the moment, it sounds like this situation has been weighing heavily on your mind lately. Sounds really stressful. 

From what you have shared it sounds like you have handled similar situations really well in the past, with an honest conversation with the person involved. Like @Lapis_Anteater suggested, I am wondering if a conversation with this girl could be helpful in this situation too? Can you think of anything you might want to say or ask?

As for dealing with the over-thinking and over-analysing that has been coming up for you, I am wondering if you have found any strategies that help you cope with this spiralling of thoughts when appear? We have some tips here if you are interested😊

Is there anyone you feel that you can really trust to share how you are feeling with? 

Thank you again for sharing your experiences with us!

 
 
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 04:42 PM

I just want her to be honest. In that moment if she had an issue with me being near her I really just want to know. I want to know if she has an issue with me in general. We have been in classes before, partners, seen each other around in general. Been in each others presence and interacted on social media. I have known of her for a long time. Some interactions I have no issues with some I question like the above. I am just so lost. I cant work out of there is anything going on or not. I do do this with other people too. But not to this extent. Also new people I meet sometimes too and interactions over text. I cant work out if im taking what she does/our interactions personally due to my pre concieved ideas she dislikes me. 

I am thinking possiblyyyyy her eye rolling reaction was in response to something someone said maybe just before I arrived. I arrived and she notice so she turned we made eye contact and she smiled at me. But its just so hard to actually think that when I can picture in my head and cant think what someone could of said 

 
 
 
Pho-RO
Pho-ROPosted 24-04-2023 05:14 PM

Hey @Cinnamon_Moose can really hear how much this situation is impacting you. The idea of her having some kind of issue with you is a genuinely scary thought -  no one wants to feel like their friends are rolling their eyes at them. I hear you that you want her to be honest with you - in the past, have you generally experienced this person to be honest and trustworthy? Are you worried about what might happen if you were to talk to her directly about this event? 

 

It is very possible she was rolling her eyes about something else and happened to look towards you at the same time. It's possible she was rolling her eyes at you, but maybe not for the reasons you are imagining (i.e. perhaps it was for a playful reason, like she was rolling her eyes in a more light hearted, joking way). The only way to know for sure would be to talk to her about it. 

 

Sometimes we can create extensive narratives in our minds about the nature of how things are - sometimes we're right, but we can also be wrong. It's normal for our brains to make assumptions - it's how we learn. It sounds like perhaps you have had to learn to be very observant of other people's reactions to you, and that your brain is making assumptions that are automatically centred on negative outcomes - like being disliked by others. I'm wondering if this is something that is worth perhaps seeking some counselling or therapy support for? 

 
 
 
 
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 05:37 PM

Hi !! Great advice!! I have sought therapy for these issues before. But I struggle to be fully focused and I cant believe anything they say. I am too convinced i am right. Not in a cocky way, but a overthinking way (if that makes sense) the only true way i get over something is forgetting about it eventually. 

 

I think if she werent to smile at me the way she did after it happened i would be chill but im just ughhhhh not sure. It doesnt make sense as to why that time and not the others. So maybe thats a good thing? Surely they werent just standing in silence waiting for my arrival before I got there. Surely they were just talking beforehand which makes it being a reaction to something more reasonable. 

 

I think she was already turned making a face before i even got there. If i saw that then surely I would of seen her aknowledge me beforehand that way the person next to her would of at least had a reference as to what she was rolling her eyes at. I need to stop, i know I do. We have had so many positive experiences. I think your final statement about assuming and being observant is so true. And it is because of her.

 

So my brain saw me arriving > her (trigger) eye rolling/making a disgusted face > then looking at me and smiling > To me this = Her getting annoyed that I am joining them and being in her prescence becuase I feel she dislikes me. I could look at it another way and think > Okay I can see her > Oh she made a face but i am not quite there yet and i dont think she has aknowledged me anyway, maybe I missed something? > oh? she smiled at me like that like that? what else do you do when you make eye contact with someone 

 
 
 
 
 
Pho-RO
Pho-ROPosted 24-04-2023 06:05 PM

@Cinnamon_Moose I truly sense how much this is weighing on you at the moment, taking up all your focus. It's obvious this person means a lot to you. Perhaps you won't know until you talk to her. Or perhaps like you said, it will just take some time and it will resolve in your brain on its own.

 

Do you think perhaps it could be helpful to spend some time focusing on other things, to give yourself a little break from all these swirling thoughts? Like watching a familiar/comforting tv show, do something artistic or creative, or something like that? 

 

P.S. What you shared about therapy in itself is a good thing to take into therapy - talking about the fact that you just can't believe the therapist, cos maybe this relates to your own relationships as well, just some food for thought! 

 

 
 
 
 
 
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 06:16 PM

I feel like am comfortable in all my relationships beside this one? We have had some great memories and 90% of the time there is 0 issue being in each others prescence. She treats me the same and intereacts the as she does everyone. 

But then there is times like this where I question everything. I do not know where we stand? if that makes sense. Is it good that she interacts with me positively? How should I take it when she does? Thats also what I question. When I look at the others around me I just dont seen anyone reacting to them like this. I think why me? 

 

I defintely need to see someone again. I feel like the issue I cant beleive the therapist is an issue in itself. Well not so much I dont believe, My opinion and beleif is just so strong it outweighs any logic.  Maybe If i could beleive that the above could have nothing to do with me then that would help and tie in to things 

 
 
 
 
 
Pho-RO
Pho-ROPosted 24-04-2023 06:33 PM

@Cinnamon_Moose feelings and emotions are often a deeper experience than logic/reasoning. They're literally different parts of the brain, and sometimes that means that we can logically understand we probably shouldn't feel a certain way, but then still feel that way anyway. Definitely something you can chat to a therapist about to explore a bit more about what these emotions mean, why they are focused on one person in particular, and how you might be able to manage/express them healthily so they don't have such an impact on you. Glad to hear you're open to the idea of working with a therapist on some of these things, it can really help us to make sense of our minds and the way we respond to things/interact with the world. 

 
Blueberry_Kudu
Blueberry_KuduPosted 24-04-2023 01:41 PM

Hey there @Cinnamon_Moose

This situation sounds like it really stressed you out and it's great that you are venting about it. I also tend to have this problem where I overthink and overanalyse situations like this and it ends up being not as big of a deal as my brain makes it out to be cause it likes to be dramatic haha. You said that she didn't have anything bad to say about you maybe she doesn't have anything against you? 

 

I definitely think you should focus on the good and maybe talk to her about it if you feel comfortable doing that. At the end of the day, I wouldn't worry too much about it and if it is a problem maybe focus on the good and positive friendships that you have already 🙂

 
 
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 02:18 PM

Thankyou so much for your response!! I have definitely had similar situations that I have overthought and then realised later that it was my own brain giving assuming. I think with this one though because I was right there its a lot tougher for me to think anything else. Although like I said once I calm down a little I can have a think. 

 

I do appreciate that she has never said anything bad about me but is she really going to tell the people closest to me that she hates me. Probably not. The reason she is on my radar in the first place is, there was this one time a few years back. She and a few of her friends were involved in this social media drama. Which by the way they are all way past that now and best of friends. Basically they were having a go at this one girl in their friend group. Butttt what I didnt realise is it was all a bit of friendly sacastic banter. So I put a post on insta for for god knows what reason. Saying can everyone just get along.... ect. and I wrote this whole paragraph about getting along. It was about them and all the drama I had been seeing but i didnt say that. Anyway the girl above commented something clearly sarcastic on my post. I think becuase she felt I was sticking my nose in their business and i had no idea what was going on.  I DMed her and told her it was not about them ect. (although it was sort of I just didnt want drama) and she was super chill about it. That was that. no further issues. No issues at School or online. About 6 months later she randomly unfollowed me on insta and from that moment I have never been relaxed since. Interesting because soooo many people have also unfollowed me too but I do not overthink about their interactions with me 

I do find it interesting that no one knows and or notices this stuff. I feel like if it was a common issue then more people would know? I have reached out to her about a comment she made one time. She told me she didnt mean anything by it and I believe her. I got this sense of calm when I recieved her message and we had a chat. So that was really positive. I just cant put my finger on what else could of been happening in this situation thats all. I was thinking that maybe someone next to her said something or they were just talking before I arrived and her reaction was to something else. She only turned around when we got there becuase she caught us or felt us come over possibly? IDK Maybe she only smiled at me becuase we made eye contact? you know how you do real quick when you make eye contact say out in public? To me it was sus though. But maybe I am just overthinking her smiling at me. If I didnt see what happened prior and we made eye contact maybe she would of just smiled at me anyway? ughhhhhh My brain. 

 

 

 
 
 
Blueberry_Kudu
Blueberry_KuduPosted 24-04-2023 04:30 PM

Oh I totally get you!! Overthinking can be very frustrating. It's good to know that you reached out in the past and it turned out to be positive. You could bring it up with her to get some clarity, that way it can take the edge off the stress and overthinking this is causing you. Sometimes I find that when I say something to someone about an issue that's been making me stressed I feel a lot better afterward because it takes a bit of weight off my shoulders. 

 
Lapis_Anteater
Lapis_AnteaterPosted 24-04-2023 11:59 AM

Ah I feel you. You don't want to ignore it because what if you're right but at they same time if you don't ignore it you'll never get to relax. It's really positive that a) you didn't have a problem before and b) she hasn't said anything bad about you. If you can, try and look for things that she does to show that she likes you. You've mentioned her smiling when she saw you. And ultimately, if you has a problem with you/something you've done it's her responsibility to bring it up with you. It's really hard to break overthinking. Would you feel comfortable discussing it with her? I feel like the best kind of evidence is one that comes directly from the source. 

 

Take care.

 
 
Cinnamon_Moose
Cinnamon_MoosePosted 24-04-2023 01:20 PM

Wow this is fantastic advice. I have posted in several forums about previous overthinking episodes over the years and I really feel like you have understood me!! This is exactly what I mean. Thankyou for reading all that aswell! I know its long but the only way to explain on the internet. 

I would love to reach out to her. I have about another thing and it was just fine. But this happened a little ways ago now so she might not even remember. 

 

Focusing on the good. We have been in a class together, a sports class together and she chose me to be her partner one time when we needed to pick someone from the grade below/above. But whilst positive I feel like she only picked me because she had no choice. IDK we had fun though. Positive experience. So its not like she is embarrassed to be seen with me? in front of people if that makes sense. We shared a room to place our books and things so I saw her frequently during the days anyway. So its not like my prescence was new to her. But I also think what if i just havent noticed other things? well, im pretty observant so im sure I would have haha

I am thinking maybe we were going somehere and when she realised she would be stuck with me, she was annoyed? But again we have been put in the same area outside of our control before so it just doesnt make sense. Maybe thats the point im supposed to realise? 

 

Its just I remember the face she made when she looked at me. She smiled but it was quick, and the face you make when you get caught I feel. I also then think well, say the action I caught where she rolled her eyes did not take place. if we made eye contact anyway would she of just smiled at me? maybe i am reading to much in to it. 

 

 

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