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Ask a Pro Live: Navigating the Mental Health System October 2019

Ask a Pro Live: Navigating the Mental Health System

 

This month we are continuing our theme of Recovery with a live discussion talking all things Navigating the Mental Health System!

 

Seeking help takes a lot of courage, and taking that first step to seek mental health support is a really important decision! But, where do you start? How do you find the best support for you? How do you know if a service or professional is the right fit for you?

 

We are here to answer all your questions about seeking help, finding services and navigating the mental health system in Australia!

 

Whether you are thinking about seeking help for the first time or have a ton of experience navigating the mental health system, this discussion is for you!

 

Join us live on Thursday the 31st of October 2019 from 7:00pm-9:00pm (AEDT). Let's talk about courage and bravery when accessing and navigating mental health help!

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You can submit your questions ahead of time here or use the form below! Check back in on the night to see how our guest answers your questions Smiley Happy

 

If you would like to be tagged before we start this conversation, give this post a high five! 

Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 22-10-2019 10:22 AM
 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 07:48 PM

I think you have raised a really important point @ecla34 that there is so much out there, but education about what you can access isn't always visible. Education around navigating the mental health system can really help to find all the hidden pathways that exist, but maybe aren't well known! This is where local GPs can be a great starting point too!

 

I've seen a lot of organisations run groups to help community members access the supports in their local areas, which I think is a great idea!

 

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 07:54 PM

What are your thoughts on mental health awareness and stigma? 

Increasing mental health awareness and helping to break down stigma to have open and honest conversations is so important, and I agree this should be a priority. When we speak to young people on the forums who are thinking about speaking up about their mental health, fear of being judged or others not understanding is up there with one of the biggest reasons for not seeking help!

 

There is a big role for schools, families and communities, and i definitely feel that mental health awareness and literacy is increasing globally! The work of anti-stigma campaigns have been really important, but there is also things we can all do!

 

By talking about mental health and making it a conversation that we have with our friends, family and community, we can help to educate others and them know we are a safe person to talk about mental health with. Sharing your story and offering a piece of your experience can help others feel comfortable, or even checking in! You never know when your compassion and courage to share your experiences may inspire someone else to speak up too Heart

 

 
 
 
 
 
Bre-RO
Bre-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:06 PM

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@Jess1-RO Agreed! Building on mental health awareness is a shared responsibility and the more people who speak up the more commonplace it will become to reach out when we're having a tough time Heart 

 

We are talking navigating the mental health system tonight and we've had some great questions. This next question is one I've often asked myself so I'd love to hear your thoughts on this Jess. 

 

How I can receive more affordable support once my mental health care plan is finished up?

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 31-10-2019 08:01 PM

@Jess1-RO  I totally agree with you and can understand a lot of people's concerns. My own family did not believe that I needed to see a psychologist or psychiatrist, and would say things to me like 'why can't you just get over your issues?', 'why can't you just enjoy life' or 'what do you have to be depressed about?'. I didn't have much support from friends either, because they would say things like I was making up my struggles to get attention.

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:06 PM
There are definitely still a lot of misconceptions still out there, which can really hurt when you hear stigmatising language @WheresMySquishy Heart

This is where I feel a community like ReachOut is so valuable, where there is a space that no matter what you are feeling, you are safe and understood here Heart And where the community is free from stimatising language
 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:10 PM

This is such a great question!

 

How I can receive more affordable support once my mental health care plan is finished up?

I am just going to take this question one step further back first: What is a Mental Health Care Plan/Treatment plan and what does it mean?

 

For those who may be new to navigating the mental health system, a Mental Health Treatment Plan/Care Plan is something you work collaboratively with your GP to develop. If you are eligible for a Mental Health Treatment Plan, you may be able to access up to 10 individual appointments in a year with a mental health professional at a subsidised rate, and 10 group sessions.

 

Mental health professionals may set their own rates, so depending on who you see, some or all of the appointment is covered by government subsidy under medicare. For those looking to access mental health care plans, your GP is the best starting point- they can help you with the Treatment Plan and refer you to a mental health professional.

 

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:15 PM

So you have a Mental Health Care Plan, but what happens after 10 sessions? Where can you find affordable mental health support?

 

We know that often young people need more than 10 sessions. So, where can you go? Depending on the services you are accessing, and what support you need you may be able to find more affordable appointments through headspace centers, lifeline centers, outreach community teams, bulk billing mental health clinics, drop in centers, youth centers, recovery colleges, schools, universities, online peer support or counselling services... there are a lot of avenues (sometimes so many it can be overwhelming!).

 

One of the complicating aspects of navigating the mental health system is that access is often dependent on the area you live in, and each service has a specific set of criteria. So, it can be helpful to see what is in your local area and weigh up your options! WayAhead have a directory of mental health services, as do Health Direct that can help you find services near you. It may mean doing some research to find something that works for you, or accessing a range of services in conjunction!

 
 
 
 
 
Bre-RO
Bre-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:31 PM

@Jess1-RO I totally relate when you say all the options can be overwhelming. I know it's taken me a long time to figure out what I need to do to stay mentally well. It's also an ongoing thing that I'll have to do for the rest of my life. Sometimes that can be an overwhelming thing to accept and come to terms with. I've found at times when there are long wait-lists and I'm tired of taking traditional routes to address what's going on for me, thinking outside the box helps. 

 

Everyone is different but for me finding a community helps, getting involved in some kind of creative pursuit, exercising in some way. The experiences and relationships you have can be therapeutic and for me seeking that out has been really helpful. 

 

There are areas of the health system that we can’t deny need improvement. A part of acknowledging everyone's experiences is bringing up that there times when service delivery falls short for a number of reasons. It’s complex to get into but what we’d like to say about this is that there are ways of advocating for yourself and exercising choice.

 

We'll be putting together a list of ways you can contact local members, blogs to write about your experiences and committees to join if that's your thing. We want to acknowledge here that sometimes you're doing everything you can and it feels like you're not getting anywhere. We had a question about this: 

 

What should I do if my current treatment isn’t working?

 
 
 
 
 
Bre-RO
Bre-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:41 PM

Thank you to everyone who has joined us tonight Heart We don't have long left so I'm going to throw a few questions up that we have. I look forward to reading more of the communities thoughts on Navigating the Mental Health System. 

 

What improvements would you like to see in the mental health system in the future?

 

What apps are available to help me navigate the health system?

 
 
 
 
 
drpenguin
drpenguinPosted 31-10-2019 08:57 PM

What improvements would you like to see in the mental health system in the future?

 

I'd like to see more education and awareness of the mental health system and related services at education institutions, especially high schools where vulnerable individuals can tend to go unnoticed and neglected. I haven't been in high school for a long time now though, so I don't know how much mental health awareness and education has changed, but I hope that it does become more important in the near future!

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 09:00 PM

Education is essential @drpenguin! I share your hope that awareness will continue to grow as a priority for education sectors Heart I definitely feel there is movement in that direction!

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 31-10-2019 08:51 PM

What improvements would you like to see in the mental health system in the future?
I would like for it to be made easier for young people to access medications, and for there to be more information provided to them about how they can cover the cost of medications. I have private health insurance but I still find myself getting confused as to what exactly it can cover. I also had no idea that you can claim psychology sessions on some health insurance plans. So, I think there should be more awareness about these kinds of things.
I also think that most people need more than 10 sessions a year. It would be great if the number of sessions on a mental health care plan could be increased somehow.

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:59 PM

So true @ecla34! It is 100% okay to chop and change until you find the person, service or support that works for you!

 

@WheresMySquishy I think you have raised a really great point about learning more about private health insurance; there are a lot of things you may be able to claim through your health fund and working out what you are eligible for can really help! It is also something to think about when joining a health fund; which one is going to give you the best mental health support

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:38 PM

Could not agree more @Bre-RO! I love your suggestion of "thinking outside the box"; mental wellbeing is broad and there are so many therapeutic areas you can build on to support recovery alongside seeing mental health professionals!

 

What should I do if my current treatment isn’t working?

 

Every person is unique, which means that what they need, what works and what doesn’t will also be unique! If something is not working for you, I would recommend having a conversation about what is working and not working with your mental health professionals, and supporters. Your recovery is about you, and it is 100% to say something is not working for you.


Sometimes a different approach, different treatments or a combination of things can make a big impact!

 


The good thing is that mental health and wellbeing is so broad, and there are so many different treatment approaches available. As @WheresMySquishy mentioned earlier, sometimes changing it up and seeing someone new can help you find new approaches that work for you!

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:42 PM

I think I have three top tips from my experience when I felt a treatment or approach isn't working for me:

 

  1. Try and have an open and honest discussion with your support system about what works and doesn't work for you
  2. It can be really helpful to understand the difference between mental health professionals so that you can see the sorts of support available to you!
  3. Don't be afraid to try something new. Many times I was hesitant to try new approaches when I felt like 'nothing was working'. But with support from my family, and mustering some courage to be open to new ways of supporting my recovery, I've learnt a diverse toolkit of skills and resources I can use
 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:50 PM

What improvements would you like to see in the mental health system in the future?

What a question, there are so many things I would like to see but I think they all boil down to four key principles or approaches:

 

  • Connection and Partnership: I want to see mental health services continue to work together in partnership to support those accessing services to have a more seamless experience no matter where you enter the system
  • Lived Experience at the centre!: I feel like this is an area that is gaining a lot more recognition, and I want to see the voice of lived experience continue to drive all decisions services make to improve their services
  • Holistic approach to wellbeing: Wellbeing is so broad and encompasses all aspects of life, mental health is one aspect but to live a fulfilling life I would like to see the system focus on all aspects of life from social, physical health, housing, work, study etc
  • Working within families and communities: We are not islands, and I am happy to see services challenge themselves to think about the role of family and community 
 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 31-10-2019 08:59 PM

@Jess1-RO  I agree that families can make a big difference in the mental health of individual members. I have seen people from particular cultures deal with individual members' mental health issues through a more 'collective' approach that places less responsibility on the individual to 'make themselves get better'. It's a bit hard for me to explain here, but this approach has benefited people from particular cultures and societies.

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 08:56 PM

What apps are available to help me navigate the health system?

The really exciting thing about living in a digital age is that new technology is helping us address gaps and make self help and mental health support more accessible!

 

Head to Health is a service that collates the best of online supports and apps across the country and is differently worth a look!

 

ReachOut has the Next Step tool which can be a helpful tool to connect you with relevant services!

 

We also spoke about the WayAhead directory and Health Direct which can be so helpful in finding resources. Also, my health record is another opportunity to be able to share your story and experiences across different health professional!

 

There are so many, that we may link even more tomorrow!

 
 
 
 
 
Bre-RO
Bre-ROPosted 31-10-2019 09:01 PM

 

 

Thank you for sharing all those links @Jess1-RO 

We've had a really uplifting conversation tonight, which is the perfect way to finish Mental Health month. There has been a lot of chatting about recovery, treatment and healing which has been so heart-warming to read through Heart 

 

We had a question that is an important one. What happens when you're feeling like you don't have options and start to feel at risk. We had the following question from a courageous member: 

 

What happens when no one in the system will help?

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 09:11 PM

What happens when no one in the system will help?

Thank you to the incredibly brave person who raised this question Heart I cannot begin to describe the number of times I have asked myself this question, and worked with others who have asked this question. 

 

I could not more highly recommend reaching out to a crisis or helpline. They are there 24/7 (or longer hours), willing and ready to lend an ear. Even if we are accessing support, often our counsellors and mental health workers are only accessible during short hours. If we aren't accessing support, then it can feel like there even less options. That is why helplines are there... to offer support in the moment when you need them Heart 

 

If you are feeling like you need support, feeling distress, or starting to feel unsafe- you are not alone and someone is there to hold the load with you. There is eheadspace, kids helpline, lifeline, beyondblue, suicide call back service and so many more on our urgent help page!

 

 
 
 
 
 
Bre-RO
Bre-ROPosted 31-10-2019 09:17 PM

Thank you for sharing those crisis lines @Jess1-RO

 

That wraps up our Ask A Pro Live on Navigating the Mental Health System. If anyone has any questions following tonight's chat please feel free to share Heart 

 

We will also be getting back to anyone interested in getting involved in advocacy, committees, sharing experiences etc.. 

 

Thank you to everyone who participated tonight and to everyone who asked questions Heart 

 

 
 
 
 
 
Jess1-RO
Jess1-ROPosted 31-10-2019 09:21 PM

Thank you to everyone who submitted questions for this discussion tonight! There are still so many more we didn't get to, so please feel free to ask any further questions here Smiley Happy

 

HUGE thank you to @WheresMySquishy @drpenguin and @ecla34 for jumping online, sharing your thoughts and experiences- you are all such inspiring and strong leaders in this community Heart

 

And and thank you to @Bre-RO for leading this discussion tonight! 

 

 

Good night everyone! 

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 31-10-2019 09:19 PM

@Jess1-RO  Thank you for sharing your experiences. I learned a lot of new things. Heart

 
 
 
 
 
ecla34
ecla34Posted 31-10-2019 09:19 PM

@Jess1-RO thank you so much for sharing your experiences and advice Heart it was really helpful and so amazing to read through Heart

 
 
 
 
 
ecla34
ecla34Posted 31-10-2019 08:55 PM

Have you had experience of developing a Mental Health Care Plan? And if so, what advice do you have for someone who may be thinking of seeking mental health support through this avenue?

That you're not obligated to stick with the same professional for all 10 sessions, and that ultimately you're allowed to choose what you want to focus on. You're definitely allowed to pause and say: this isn't working for me, what needs to change? This is something I think was covered well by other people earlier in the chat 🙂

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