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TW: Crime - ReachOut Investigates: Crime Edition

Hey Everyone!

(RIP the lame thread title Smiley LOL)

So, I'm a true crime, murder mystery fanatic. 

I find it all so intriguing! I love trying to piece together cold cases or theorize or WHATEVER! For some reason, it doesn't scare me as much as it used to (Probably because I skip over all the gory details when I am reading about a murder). 

My favourite YouTube channel to watch is Bella Fiori, solely for the crime 🙂 She's very passionate and doesn't go into much detail about how they died etc.

 

Anyway, I thought we could make this thread and have a discussion every few weeks about a case and yeah, just have a chat, what your suspicions are etc. I'll link the full story every time and you can read it if you like 🙂

So, If your interested, let me know 🙂 I have a good idea for the first case, everyone here should know it and it's probably the most upsetting case to me because it happened only 5 years ago here in Australia, William Tyrell 😞 

 

I thought we should put in some rules though just for the safety and well being of other members who may be triggered by reading this stuff.

1. When discussing a case, don't go into the gory details. e.g If they were killed 'Their cause of death was asphyxiation' is cool I think but not in depth analysis of there death. 

2. Yeah, no more rules I can't think of any bahaha 🙂

Get me some more rules guys! We need to look sophisticated!

 

Also, feel free to recommend any crimes that you are intrigued by, here are some of my favorites (well not favourites - the most interesting!) are:

  • JonBenet Ramsey: JonBenet was killed in like late 1990's on either Christmas Night/Boxing Day Morning.She was 6 years old and in the pageant system. She lived in Boulder, Colarado, America. It was the brother!!! This one was soooo suss! I firmly believe it was Burke and the parents tried to cover it up! Wow I sound like a dork 😉 Probably the most interesting case for me. Check out the SBS documentary about it, OMG the weirdness is overwhelming!

 

  • The Sodder Children - Like half a dozen kids from one family disappeared during a house fire. They couldn't have perished because no bones were found and the fir wasn't hot enough to disintegrate them. Multiple reports say they saw kids matching the children's description peering out of the window of a passing van as the fire was occurring. This was an American case in a town called Fayetteville. This one has SO many loose ends, it's a really old case but it's so fascinating, I was pouring over it for hours!

 

  • The Beaumont Children - Jane, Aarna and Grant Beaumont were 'kidnapped' in I think the 1960's? No trace of them was ever discovered. They were going to the beach that day by themselves (not unusual at that time for such young children). Jane was last seen entering a bakery and buying something with a pound note, there mother never gave them a pound note. She and her siblings left with a tall man and they were never seen again. Unfortunately this case just doesn't seem to close, I wish they would find out what happened just so the family got closure 😞 

 

  • Madeline McCann - She was I think 3-4 and her family was on a holiday in Portugal. Her parents left her and her younger twin brothers sleeping in there hotel room and went next door to a bar. They had view of the room from there but obviously not inside or around the patio. The parents did routinely checks on the kids and on one of them, the discovered Maddie was gone. Many reports were that a man was carrying a sleeping child in pink PJ's that possibly could be Maddie but the man was never identified. Speculation is that the parents murdered Maddie and covered it up but I don't know what to believe, I don't think her parents would've payed 11 million dollars to raise money for there daughters search if they knew where she was. So sad though 😞

 

  • William Tyrell - An 3yr old Australian boy who disappeared in 2014 from his Grandmother's backyard. Him and his sister were playing hide and seek and his parents and grandma went inside for a minute (literally) they came back out and when they realised after a bit that te sis hadn't found him in their game, they started to get worried. They checked the perimeter to avail. They called emergency services and so began one of the biggest searches in Australian history. No one's seen him since. He would be 7, he's been missing for longer then he's been alive 😞 there's no way he just wandered off and they never found him, he had to be abducted! I don't reckon his bio parents had anything to do with it though. Their were a lot of weirdos around that area at the time though. I don't know, I really hope he's alive but I think the chances are pretty slim. Such a sad case 😞

 

  • Azaria Chamberlain - ' The infamous 'dingo got my baby' child 😞 1 yr old Azaria and her parents were in outback Australia when one night she was discovered missing. I don't know as much about this case, there was barely any evidence. I know this case is closed and they announced that a dingo stole her once they found her dress in a cave but there's something about her parents that was just... i don't know... off.... 

So, yeah! That turned into a lot. If your interested in any of them I can give you some links. I really recommend you check them out if your into this kind of thing, every single one of them are so strange and detailed. It really gets you thinking. I love talking about this kinda thing 🙂 

Very Sorry If this is a total BORE as well bahahaha... Smiley LOL

annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 13-01-2019 04:35 PM

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Bananatime04
Bananatime04Posted 13-01-2019 05:20 PM
Wow you’ve done your research 😂. I am aware of the William tyrell one but I haven’t heard any of the other ones. Pretty interesting tho! Love the idea @annabethxchase!
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 13-01-2019 05:22 PM
Yeah I thought about that @Taylor-RO Thank you 🙂
Haha @Bananatime04, lots of documentaries and reading but I loved it bahaha 🙂
 
 
 
Bananatime04
Bananatime04Posted 13-01-2019 05:23 PM
What’s your favourite one?
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 13-01-2019 05:26 PM
Hmm, I would say to research JonBenet and The Sodder Children though I did watch an 8 hour live stream of the excavation directed by the police to try and find the beaumont children (woo i sound so obsessed!) Maddie McCann was very intriguing though I loved looking through them all but its sad it isn't just fiction..
 
 
 
 
 
Bananatime04
Bananatime04Posted 13-01-2019 05:29 PM
Wow 8 hours! You are into this... a lot! It’s really cool actually
 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 13-01-2019 05:30 PM
It was so interesting! Apart from when they were just digging for 3 hours... I was doing over stuff while I watched. It was the middle of exams so I was doing assignments hehe. Thank you ❤️
 
 
 
 
 
Bananatime04
Bananatime04Posted 13-01-2019 05:32 PM
Ooo what were the exams like? Sounds like you smashed them if you can watch an 8hr live video while doing them! You seem very smart
 
 
 
 
 
nyke
nykePosted 13-01-2019 06:58 PM

Oh I've definitely heard about William Tyrell, the situation is very strange because there's virtually no trace, plus it received a ton of media coverage recently. I think they're having an inquest soon, or already had one or something.

I ended up looking at Australia's missing persons page after talking in Chit Chat and found this interesting case about a teen who went missing in my region ten years ago (I can't share it specifically for that reason haha). I'll call him J. I ended up reading the entire inquest! It's really interesting because there was plenty of tension and connection between J and other people, but nothing that can be established beyond a rumour. Most interesting is that J's ex-partner's family seem quite involved and gave somewhat contradictory statements. Plus sometimes people are like "so-and-so said that they knew where / how J died, and this-other-person was around when they said that", but 'this-other-person' can never recall or confirm what was said. Police say that it was suicide, but I agree with the coroner's report that shows how this is a premature assumption and that the circumstances are suspicious.

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 13-01-2019 07:31 PM
ooooo, that sounds fascinating @nyke! There's always people that say that and I just wonder, maybe they actually know and the police aren't looking into it..
 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 21-01-2019 01:09 PM

Ok! So, I finally punched all this writing out!

So our 1st case is William Tyrell's supposed abduction. I chose this one because as we are all Aussie, I thought that you'd all probably know a bit about it/heard of the case before 🙂

 

So here's the story in case you don't know all the facts 🙂 (I've taken it upon myself to try and recall it all and then read over it and make sure everything is right Smiley Tongue )

 

So, William's parents took him and sister out of school early one day as a surprise to see there grandmother. The drive from where they were was about 4 hours and they got there I think mid afternoon. William's father left to go into town to make a phone call as there wasn't good cell reception where their Nan lived. Nanna and mum sat watching the children play hide and seek in the front yard facing the road. This photo was taken mere minutes before he disappeared and its the most well known photo of the young boy:

 

William_Tyrrell_in_a_Spider-Man_costume.jpg

 

I don't know the exact times but William's grandmother went inside to make some tea or something and the mum soon followed. They were gone for literally ONE minute, and they came back and his sister was was still trying to find him. After a bit, the 2 adults realised that he'd been hidden for a while and got up to help find him. Nothing. They searched the entire property. Nothing. Thy alerted neighbors and called the police about 15 minutes after he was last seen.

 

I feel as though in a lot of these cases, the police do a shoddy job at something. Maybe they wait to long, the don't question, they don't search soon enough. But this case, the police were so on top of everything, they immediately launched a search party and questioned neighbors and family. 

 

Many of the neighbors reported seeing a dark SUV of some sort and another car (I've got the cars wrong I know it ;), but the point is there were some suss cares driving slowly down the street and pulling up and all this weird stuff. There was a massive national park thing around the grandmothers house and police initially believe that he just wandered off. I personally am 99% sure that he didn't just 'wander off.' It's just weird that if he wandered off, the search parties ever found him or his body. I reckon he was abducted. There were also a bunch of weirdos living in the area at the time which just points even more to him being kidnapped. I also really don't think that Williams foster parents killed him, I'm almost positive on it - the only reason I'm not is because you can't trust anyone (MWAHAHA) but I really don't think they could've been involved in anyway. I also am not inclined to think the bio parents took him either. Dunno, just got this feeling it wasn't them... 😞 To me though, I just hope that that poor little boy is either found alive or the family is given closure and him body is found.

 

That's basically it. You can read more about it on the Wikipedia page here. (Please edit this if I'm not meant to include the links - warning as well, the information may be triggering. I also tried to make this as non-triggering as possible but if it breaks the guidelines I'm sorry 😞 )

 

Anyway, I think the thing that struck me the most about this case is that it really opened my eyes that stuff like this doesn't just happen in America, it happens in Australia and it's so frightening. The parents said in one of the interviews that "You always think your safe, No, that'll never happen to us, to him." But it does, and it's so shocking 😞

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 21-01-2019 01:10 PM

Oh hey @Bee @Bananatime04 @unwind @Esperanza67 @nyke @Taylor-RO @litgym @Jess1-RO @gina-RO @scared01 @lokifish here's the first case if you are interested. No pressure though xx

 
 
 
 
 
Esperanza67
Esperanza67Posted 21-01-2019 02:31 PM

This is such a tricky case @annabethxchase and with lack of leads it's really hard for me to form a straight forward opinion on this subject. I agree with you that this incident really is frightening. I hope the family (and the public) find some closure soon.

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 02-02-2019 07:53 PM

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone had any suggestions?

@unwind @nyke @litgym @Esperanza67 @Bananatime04?

 
 
 
 
 
litgym
litgymPosted 02-02-2019 08:25 PM

waittt for other murder cases or the one we are studying now ? @annabethxchase

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 02-02-2019 08:27 PM
bahaha that wasn't very clear, i meant any suggestions for other cases 🙂 but feel free to talk about the current one
 
 
 
 
 
litgym
litgymPosted 02-02-2019 08:33 PM

yeah that’s what i thought and then i was like waitttt maybe she means something else haha ! @annabethxchase 

 

uh honestly i don’t know any other cases besides the ones you wrote in the first post and unless you mean we choose from there haha ?

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 02-02-2019 08:34 PM
ahhh sorry hehe not very good at explaining things 😉
nah it's ok don't worry about it xx
 
 
 
 
 
litgym
litgymPosted 02-02-2019 08:37 PM

no no no. sorry im just very lost with myself so then im coming up with all these ideas sorryyyy. pleas explain Heart

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 02-02-2019 08:39 PM
bahahha noe im confused hehehe. So the question was (better explained) If you know of any other cases that we could chat about it, would you like to share? wow we're confusing each other 🙂
 
 
 
 
 
litgym
litgymPosted 02-02-2019 08:43 PM

okay hahahah, that’s what i originally thought ! unfortunately no i don’t haha

 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 02-02-2019 08:43 PM
bahaha that's ok ❤️ 🙂
 
 
 
 
 
nyke
nykePosted 02-02-2019 10:20 PM
Aww man @annabethxchase, I really want to sit down and dissect this case, but I haven't found the right space of mind to do it yet. 😕 Keeping tagging, my gut says that I'll do it this week if I remember.
 
 
 
 
 
annabethxchase
annabethxchasePosted 03-02-2019 11:38 AM
Haha that's fine @nyke and @unwind, I totally get what you mean. I don't like giving larger responses when I'm like on the go, I prefer to sit down and put sie effort into it 🙂

ooo yeah I think so @unwind , apparently they have a new lead, I don't know if they've released anything else about it but really interested to see if this lead goes anywhere.. 🙂 Fingers crossed
 
 
 
 
 
unwind
unwindPosted 02-02-2019 10:48 PM
I relate to what @nyke said so much, I was thinking that while scrolling just now Smiley LOL. I feel with things like this I've gotta be sat down and not distracted to write something good (bad choice of words) about it.

I'll keep my eye out this week for other interesting cases. Also, I may be mistaken, but wasn't there some kind of development in the William Tyrrell case? A witness? Evidence? I thought I heard something on the news one night recently.

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