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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:10 PM
Top tips from tonight:
1. Focus on the journey as well as the end result
2. @Ben-RO's awesome graphic:
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:08 PM
Thank you everyone!! goodnight
I think my top tip would be to do the best you can given the situation (don't be too hard on yourself) and keep doing what you love 🙂
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:03 PM
In all seriousness, one of the strategies that I've found to be consistently helpful is to turn the activity I'm procrastinating on into some sort of team-effort, (ideally by partnering up with someone who isn't also a procrastinator). I know I suck at holding myself accountable to personal deadlines, but I hate letting people down, so if I've set up an agreement with someone to peer-review each other's work/give each other feedback by a given date it's a lot easier to meet that "fake" deadline, than if it was just for my own sake. It's not always applicable (e.g. non-group assignments obviously can't be written together), but it's worked pretty well for me when I have managed to pull it off.
EDIT: Thanks for all the comments, guys! The eyes in the "finished" version still bug the hell out of me though, so I'm trying not to look at it too hard or else I'll have to go back and try and fix it again, haha...
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:07 PM
Thanks everyone! Sorry my wifis been so unpredictable! Thanks for your honest input and willingness to share your experiences. One of the things I love about GRs! Have a good night 🙂
Oohh my top tips are:
1. If you're worried about something being perfect, just start
2. Done is enough!
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:06 PM
Go to the gym and see how many chin ups you can do (or whatever you want to do). Exercise = makes you happy for a short while.
And @Ben-RO my legs are sore from leg press
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:08 PM
Great tips guys! @loves netball I really need to take that advice and get myself to the gym 😛As @Stealth_ninja has said I think just start is my best tip. And to remind yourself that you've done harder or equally difficult things in the past and gotten through them. Also to remind yourself that things aren't SUPPOSED to be easy - otherwise you wouldn't learn from doing it 😉
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:02 PM
Aaand that just about wraps it up for tonight's GR on perfectionism!! Huge thank you's to everyone who joined in tonight - I definitely learned a lot and it was so good to share in our experiences of perfectionism and especially share heaps of useful strategies.
To finish off, post your top tip for someone who is having a tough time with perfectionism below so that others who see this discussion after tonight can have a read of your suggestions!
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 10:04 PM
Sorry I wasn't here for very long but from what I saw, it was a good chat 🙂- Mark as New
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:57 PM
@May_, not yet because i'm like 'it's not a real deadline...' but i can't think of how else to get the time pressure but not be late
so i'm thinking next year i'll try it (and just realised that's kinda procrastinating again haha). just gotta try to get better at tricking myself 😛
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:58 PM
I set fake deadline and then i take longer than the deadline to get it done BUT i think it's okay because at least I started - GO ME
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:58 PM
@cupcakes_032 haha same. I heard of a uni subject once that asked the students to allocate their due dates throughout the semester 😮- Mark as New
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:54 PM
@loves netballthat's so great to hear that running is a super helpful strategy for you!
@Aschewow that looks great! RO peeps are a talented bunch!
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:48 PM
6. What strategies do you use to cope with the not so great side of perfectionism?
@Asche, yeah I also need some sort of urgent deadline coming up so that i can accept something as 'good enough' and get stuff done instead of trying to nitpick and stuff. But then waiting til the last minute is the negative procrastination side of perfectionism for me.. I like the idea of putting a 'fake deadline' before the real deadline. So there's the pressure to get it done but it's not so last minute that things get handed in late. Not sure if I can really 'trick' myself into it but i think i'll try that again next year
But yeah, I try to just do my best if it's something important to me, and if I'm getting stressed from spending way too much time on something that isn't really going to make that much of a difference in the end, then i'll leave it
Focusing on the journey is good too, like in drawing. Sometimes when I'm just experimenting and don't have an end goal in mind (like the exact picture i want to draw), it's fun to see where things lead... like new ideas pop into my head and I just go with it and see how it all ends up! I think this is when the journey is fun for me
Maybe just having a go at things and gaining new experiences, even if things don't turn out as planned 🙂
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:52 PM
@cupcakes_032 have you ever been able to get a task done with a "fake deadline"? I often try to do this but haven't mastered it yet haha..- Mark as New
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:54 PM
@May_ I have a hard time witht he fake deadline thing too, sometimes setting mini fake deadlines for parts of the thing works but that mostly turns out more flexible than I first imagine 😛
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:51 PM
wow loving all the strategies, especially the baking @loves netball there is always time for cake!!
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:47 PM
@Stealth_ninjalove your 'just start' strategy. Sometimes taking that first step can be scary and hard, but just making a start shows heaps of strength!
@loves netballexactly, it's important to find strategies that work the best for you. And I absolutely agree! It doesn't matter if baked goods don't look exactly like the recipe's photo - it's all about the taste
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:42 PM
What strategies do you use to cope with the not so great side of perfectionism?
@cupcakes_032that's a really cool perspective about being real, not perfect! Definitely going to incorporate that into my positive self talk.
Something that has helped me lately (which we've talked about throughout the session tonight) is to remember to enjoy the process, rather than focusing on one solution.
I think it's important to keep in mind that feeling stressed out about having to be perfect is a common thing, and when we feel stressed or unmotivated it can be difficult to find/keep in mind these strategies. The most important thing is that to keep trying regardless, because that's how we improve and positive changes are made.
@Aschehaha sounds like the unshaded drawings were an unexpected benefit of finding the journey to be better than a finished/"perfect" product!
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:35 PM
thanks so much @loves netball! haha i wasn't expecting to get great baking tips here 😉
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:36 PM
Also @cupcakes_032 make the icing YELLOW
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:31 PM
hi @May_ 🙂
Wow these are all really great answers! (no pressure hehe)
From reading's everyone's responses, I think I'm realising that perfectionism can turn into a problem when it stops us from doing what we love, like singing or art. When it gets past motivating and becomes demotivating
@khaleesi_18, when you were talking about your friends writing songs and being reluctant to share them, it reminded me of something i read somewhere about being real, not perfect (cos we're human)
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:24 PM
I'm out now. Look forward to reading all your answers later. Night all!- Mark as New
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originally posted on 12-12-2016 9:20 PM
How does perfectionism effect creative activities that you might do (e.g. writing, drawing, dance)?
I'd say that frustration when art doesn't quite turn out right is pretty common @j95. Comparing our levels of talent to others (whose works we perceive as perfect) can be tricky to deal with, and result in lower self esteem, too. I've had friends who have produced amazing visual art pieces or written incredible songs but are reluctant to share them with others, because they aren't 100% happy.
On the flip side though, I sing, and when I listen to a singer that has a stronger/more impressive vocal range than me, it motivates me to work harder. I also used to sing heaps and have lessons, but I'm so out of practice and feel nervous to get back into it properly. Same with exercise too actually... again, I think this relates back to @Ben-RO's point about enjoying the journey of improvement, rather than only being satisfied at the end result.