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Live GR: Discrimination, 18th of May, 7:30 pm AEST

Hey everyone!

 

This Monday we're going to be having another live discussion, this time to do with Discrimination.

 

Discrimination can take place in many forms, and is present pretty much everywhere. It affects everything from someone's day to day life to the kinds of policies we see in government. This has profound effects on people's welfare and mental health, and this is definitely something to remember with all of the news and information circulating right now!

 

 

Because discrimination is so pervasive, sometimes we might not notice it in circumstances that don't affect us, or we may even take part without realising it. Which is one of many reasons why it's so important to discuss and keep discussing topics like sexism, racism, ableism, and other forms of prejudice- as well as how we can tackle them as a society! 

 

Beyond this, this Getting Real chat is a safe space to discuss discrimination and how it has affected you and your loved ones, as well as how to cope with it and who to reach out to for support- whether personal or professional! 

 


We'll be kicking off the discussion at 7:30 pm AEST on Monday the 18th of May, and hope to see you all there! 😄 Heart 

 

ecla34
ecla34Posted 17-05-2020 04:37 PM
 
 
 
 
 
Saltwaterdreamtime
SaltwaterdreamtimePosted 18-05-2020 08:26 PM
@Eden1717
“where are you from?”
“Oh I was born in Melbourne”
“No where are you from??”
“Australia”
“No”
“Yes, Australia”
 
 
 
 
 
Eden1717
Eden1717Posted 18-05-2020 08:23 PM

I am mixed race and I am constantly asked to justify why I am not white and where I came from despite being born in Australia and having lived here my whole life. I have people constantly wanting to touch my hair and invade my personal space because it isn’t straight and apperantly that gives people permission to touch me without my consent. Even just hair styles that I can’t do because I don’t have straight hair and so all the popular styles in high school where for people with straight hair. 

 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:19 PM
Who are some people who are more likely to face discrimination in our current society?
Pretty much covered by everyone else already... I believe most people can be discriminated against given the context, but those more likely would be those seen against the 'norm' of society, or who are acting against the norm.
 
 
 
 
 
Saltwaterdreamtime
SaltwaterdreamtimePosted 18-05-2020 08:11 PM
I’ve been discriminated against because of my race... is that racism or discrimination? Are they the same?
 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:13 PM

@Saltwaterdreamtime sorry to hear that Smiley Sad racism is a form of discrimination, basically it's the umbrella and everything else (ageism, sexism, homophobia, racism) lies under that broad category! 

 
 
 
 
 
Saltwaterdreamtime
SaltwaterdreamtimePosted 18-05-2020 08:17 PM
Yeah ok I thought so thanks
 
 
 
 
 
ApplesRoses
ApplesRosesPosted 18-05-2020 08:13 PM

@Saltwaterdreamtime 

They are the same thing, discrimination is just an umbrella term for any sort of negative behaviour enacted on another person. I'm sorry that that happened though 😞 , it's no fun dealing with racism or any sort of discrimination. 

 
 
 
 
 
ApplesRoses
ApplesRosesPosted 18-05-2020 08:08 PM

@Saltwaterdreamtime 

That absolutely sucks, that's absolutely disgusting customer service.Did you complain or talk to someone about this?

 
 
 
 
 
Saltwaterdreamtime
SaltwaterdreamtimePosted 18-05-2020 08:09 PM
Nah, I don’t think there was any ill intent, just lack of thought/consideration maybe
 
 
 
 
 
Eden1717
Eden1717Posted 18-05-2020 08:06 PM

Yes and then there are also things like the cost of “girl” products vs “boy” products. T-shirts are like $30 for a female shirt and 10 for a male and shaving razors are also more expensive if they are pink. 

 
 
 
 
 
ApplesRoses
ApplesRosesPosted 18-05-2020 08:03 PM

@Eden1717 

I totally feel that, one time I went to a store and wanted to get pants that were $30 but then. I got a few sizes up (same design) and then it was more expensive. I didn't get it because it felt so weird. That something like that had occurred. 

 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:02 PM

@Eden1717 exactly! It occurs in so many ways people might not stop to think about! 

 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:09 PM

Really great discussions here! Smiley Very Happy Onto question 2!

Who are some people who are more likely to face discrimination in our current society?


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Eden1717
Eden1717Posted 18-05-2020 08:12 PM

question 2: people who are considered unattractive, people of color, women, men in certain situations particularly those pertaining to jobs in child care (as an example), people with disabilities, people with mental health issues.... the list could go on forever 

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 08:24 PM

@Eden1717  The discrimination between genders for certain jobs is so true. Sometimes, I see job ads asking for a female receptionist and I wonder what the difference is.
I also think people with disabilities and health issues get discriminated against a lot. When my sister's health got worse and she couldn't physically go to school, we sent her old school medical certificates and kept them updated on what was happening on a daily basis. But out of the blue, they decided to send us warning letters that she was going to not complete her courses. They listed reasons such as not being able to do exams (which she couldn't go to), not completing homework (when she had no way of showing it to them or proving whether or not she had done it), not doing homework that didn't even have a due date and which the teachers didn't email her even though we asked for it, and some were even for not handing in assignments that weren't even due yet for the rest of the cohort. We asked if her old school would accept her back if she temporarily moved schools while she recovered, but they told us they couldn't gaurantee it. We ended up sending a bunch of angry letters and putting her in another school which accommodates her needs more.

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 08:27 PM

Next question!

What are some things we can do to prevent ourselves from judging or discriminating against others?

giphy

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 08:33 PM

What are some things we can do to prevent ourselves from judging or discriminating against others?

I find that empathy and trying to imagine what it is like to be the other person and think of their emotions really helps. I also think it's beneficial to ask them what they need or want when trying to be inclusive of them. Sometimes, I have to remind myself that other people have their own issues or problems that I might not fully understand and that I have my own issues too.

@Saltwaterdreamtime  @Eden1717  I'm so sorry you've gone through those experiences! They sound heartbreaking. 😞

 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:29 PM

Free hugs for everyone in this thread, and everyone reading! You don't have to fight discrimination alone. Heart

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Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:43 PM
Goodnight @Saltwaterdreamtime! Thank you so much for all your valuable insights! Smiley Very HappyHeart
 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:46 PM

Next question! Smiley Very Happy

What can you do/ where can you get support if you're being discriminated against?
giphy
 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:54 PM

What can you do/ where can you get support if you're being discriminated against?
Definitely talk to someone! You could start with a trusted friend or a family member. If it's a workplace/school issue you could try bringing it to the attention of the boss/principal. As always, psychological support is available in a lot of ways, e.g. online (here, eheadspace), in person (a referral to a psychologist, a school counselor), over the phone (lifeline, kidshelpline). Sometimes things may escalate to the point you may need to  report it to the Australian Human Rights Commission, or get the police or a lawyer involved... unfortunately I'm not really sure about the processes on that, though! Smiley Frustrated

Here is a good resource for supports you could access.

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 08:56 PM

@Hozzles  Thanks for posting that resource! I didn't realise there were so many other services out there or what the different state agencies were called.

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 08:52 PM

What can you do/ where can you get support if you're being discriminated against?
I think that speaking about it with someone you trust can really help to make your feelings feel validated and possibly find a way to resolve it. I also think there are government bodies depending on your state that try to mediate and resolve issues about discrimination. Here is the New South Wales one. Australia also has a Human Rights Commission.
Organisations can also be really helpful, such as human rights ones or ones that fit your identity. I think there are also services if you want to know your rights at work, such as the Fair Work ombudsman. 

 
 
 
 
 
Hozzles
HozzlesPosted 18-05-2020 08:58 PM

@WheresMySquishy thanks for all the links! Especially the Fair Work thing, I feel like some employers can take advantage of people (especially young people) who don't know what their rights are when they're working.

 
 
 
 
 
WheresMySquishy
WheresMySquishyPosted 18-05-2020 09:01 PM

@Hozzles  I feel the same. Employers do a lot of shady things. I think I've been discriminated against by one at one point, but I didn't have time to take it further.

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